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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: Slightly off topic(international Herbs-ban)

From: connie hoy <bmprc@micron.net>

Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 17:13:23 -0700

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Greetings all,havent seen any posts lately so can only assume theres

been no communication to the list regarding a United Nations effort

afoot to (I'm making this very brief)render certain vitamins,herbs and

so on by Doctor prescriptions only.Its much too lengthy to go into

unless the list feels it would like to know more about.

This info was forwarded to another list or I would never have know of

the pending issues.Please let your feeling attitudes be known.Yea or

Nay?

Connie





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: PHS Ban Herbs]

From: connie hoy <bmprc@micron.net>

Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:43:57 -0700

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Message

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To: Multiple recipients of list OGL <OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU>

Subject: Fwd: PHS Ban Herbs

From: "<Kat>< Lynch>" <FishOwiz@AOL.COM>

Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 21:40:20 -0400

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Guys... download this, read and react! It's important!

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Forwarded message:

From:   spencerb@magnus1.com (Spencer and Leslie)

Reply-to:       spencerb@magnus1.com

To:     FishOwiz@aol.com

Date: 97-06-29 20:24:12 EDT







[Only the first 2K of this message is displayed, as it is too long to view

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you can retrieve by selecting Download. Once downloaded, open it with a word

processor or text editor for reading.]



Howdy,



I don't know what a hotlink is, but I copied the text of the article

from the website. Hope this is helpful.



Also, where are you located? I'm only an hour from Philadelphia :)



Blessed be,

Leslie





Editorial:



                                 Codex Alimentarius - A Plan To Ban All

Supplements



          The whole thing would be a laughable joke except for one

thing...It's no joke and the plan has already been

          implemented.



          A commission sponsored by the United Nations and the World

Health Organization, and supported by the U.S. Food

          and Drug Administration wants to BAN all current over the

counter sales of herbs, vitamins, amino acids, minerals,

          and all other supplements.



          In the feature article that follows, Jackie Buchanan, long

time medical researcher and writer, introduces us to the

          Codex Alimentarius Commission, and the orchestrated effort

being made by pharmaceutical companies to control the

          manufacture, distribution and sale of all natural food

supplements - world-wide.



          Using the "sacred cow" known as public safety, the U.S. Food

and Drug Administration will adopt Codex

          Alimentarius into federal law (Without a single vote for or

against it in Congress)...UNLESS you and I do something

          to stop them.



          Jackie's well documented report calls for action and gives the

names, mailing addresses, phone/fax numbers and

          Email addresses for President Bill Clinton and the Food and

Drug Administration. I for one will voice my protest in

          the matter, and STRONGLY urge you to do likewise.



          In addition, EOO is making Jackie's report available in hard

copy format to anyone who requests it. I urge you to ask

          Essential Oils Online to send you a copy. Get involved. Let's

stop this insanity by making everyone aware of just

          what is at stake. Tell your neighbors, work associates, local

TV, Radio and Newspaper about the Codex Commission.

          Give copies of Ja

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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: separate-forwarded post(herb-ban)

From: connie hoy <bmprc@micron.net>

Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:47:20 -0700

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Due to interest and requests:

I have sent the post just as I recieved it myself.I apologize if some of

you cannot access this due to length...

Read,research judge for yourselves.





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To: OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU

Subject: Codex Links (ban'ed Herbs)as requested

From: connie hoy <bmprc@micron.net>

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 12:09:19 -0700

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I have had numerous requests for Codex A. links which I have indicated

below.



I also emailed Richters Herbs in Canada and they confirmed that there

has been efforts there to remove certain vitamins etc.in preparation of

the Codex compliance regulations.(It has been blocked temporarily at

least by public out cry)If you desire I can forward this post of

confirmation from Conrad Richter.



Connie Hoy



 Codex compliance is linked to the GATT treaty and countries

> like Germany and Canada appear to be falling in line.  In Germany,

> you need a prescription to buy most of what we get in our U.S.

> health food stores.  You should educate yourself about this issue

> because it's bound to come up in the U.S before long since we also

> signed GATT.  Some web sites I found earlier on the issue:

> 

> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/97/02/05/pprt_y0022_1.html

> http://www.quickcom.net/csom/html/codex.html

> http://www.citizens.org/citz2.htm

> http://www.tasinc.com/codexrpt.htm

> http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~at739/anticodex.html

> http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/hammell/index.html

> http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/online/freedom/index.html

> http://www.lef.org/fda/fda.htm

> http://feustel.mixi.net/NEWS/hammell.htm

> http://www.techmgmt.com/restore/codex.htm

> http://www.kalamark.com/Kal_Dir/codex.html

> http://nw3.nai.net/~lesadek/who.txt

> http://www.aegis.com/aegis/news/lt1997/LT970108.html





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To: "Herbs List" <herbs-l@q7.com>

Subject: Valerian Question

From: "Karin Boulanger" <karin@prcn.org>

Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 14:21:33 -0700

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Hi all. This is my first post to this list.  I live on the west coast of

BC, Canada, Zone 8.  I love to collect all kinds of herbs, especially

thymes (of which I have about 15 different kinds), but I don't always know

much about a new herb when I buy it.

I put in a valerian plant last year, and this year it has shot right up to

about 5 feet and has bloomed.  However now I have this great tall plant

with finished flower spikes on top and don't know what to do with it.  The

green part of the plant isn't so tall, but there are these very long

slender stalks sticking up and they are rather unsightly now that the pink

flowers are done.  Should I just leave it alone, or can I cut the spikes

off? Thanks in advance for your help.



Karin Boulanger <karin@prcn.org> 





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To: herbs <herbs-l@q7.com>

Subject: Green Goddess Salad Dressing

From: Mindy <vinqvist@nbnet.nb.ca>

Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 06:32:15 -0300

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Hi everybody,



the list has been really quiet lately, so I figured you all are busy in

your gardens.  I found a recipe in my Mastercook II program (how I love

that program) that you folks can make with all your fresh herbs!  Enjoy!



smiles

Mindy

                    *  Exported from  MasterCook II  *



                          Green Goddess Dressing



Recipe By     : Elizabeth Powell

Serving Size  : 8    Preparation Time :0:15

Categories    : Salad Dressings



  Amount  Measure       Ingredient -- Preparation Method

--------  ------------  --------------------------------

   1      tablespoon    cider vinegar

     1/2  cup           mayonnaise

     1/2  cup           sour cream

     3/4  cup           buttermilk

   2      cloves        garlic -- minced

     1/2  cup           fresh chives -- chopped

     1/4  cup           fresh parsley -- chopped

   1      tablespoon    fresh tarragon -- chopped

   1      tablespoon    fresh basil -- chopped

   2      tablespoons   capers

                        salt and pepper



     Beat together vinegar, mayonnaise, sour cream, and half of

buttermilk. Stir in garlic, herbs, capers, and remaining buttermilk.

Season with salt and pepper, if desired.



                   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 



NOTES : May be made quickly in blender: begin by chopping herbs, adding

vinegar as herbs are chopped. Blend in mayonnaise and sour cream. Slowly

add buttermilk while blending, until desired consistency is reached.





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To: vinqvist@nbnet.nb.ca, herbs-l@q7.com

Subject: Re: Green Goddess Salad Dressing

From: Loraccat@aol.com

Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:09:43 -0400 (EDT)

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Thanks for the recipe, Mindy.  Can any of you knowledgeable listers share

some recipes/uses for lemon grass?



Thanks,

Carol





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To: herbs-l@q7.com

Subject: need pesto recieps 

From: "Rhyan" <rhyan@ican.net>

Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:08:13 +0000

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 Well I need some help I decided that it was about time that I 

started to grow basil and now I have a lot of it and need a pesto 

reciepe that is easy and fast. If the basil gets any bigger I will 

waste some of it and I just hate to waste anything. It has been cold 

here the last few days so I brought my basil inside and it is growing 

even better inside I love container growing if it gets cold you can 

move things inside that need it. My trailing rosemary seems ok but it 

has a few dried leaves near the centre I hope it is not from the cool 

weather but I will bring it in if it gets any colder. I was given a 

couple of vary tired basil that had already flowered and I was not 

sure if I would get anything else from them but the are now producing 

more leaves and I will at least get a bit out of them I hope. 

Rhyan Birch 

Edmonton.Alberta.Canada

Rhyan@ican.net 





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To: herbs-l@q7.com

Subject: Re: need pesto recieps 

From: "Michele Spainhour Rumohr" <mrumohr@herakles.stuaffrs.wayne.edu>

Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:07:33 EDT

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> Here's what I do:

>

> Take a couple Large handfuls (or two supermarket bunches) of

> basil, wash and stem, toss in food processor (or blender). This 

> would be about 3 loosely-packed cups, or 4 packed cups.

> Process just a tad, then start adding olive oil (the best you

> have. extra virgin is best).



> When the mixture becomes a thick

> slurry (about 1/3 to 1/2 cup, depending on amount of basil),

> add about 1/4 cup (or possibly a bit less - the classic recipe

> calls for only 2 Tab, not enough in my opinion - of pine nuts

> (you can use almonds, or walnuts, instead if necessary but

> pine nuts are so yummy) and process.



> Add one large or two

> small cloves of garlic also and process. A tiny bit of salt is

> necessary as well - I use just a tiny pinch but you can really

> taste the difference if you omit it.

>

> Then, grate up about a cup of mixed Parmesan and Romano cheese

> and stir into the pesto mixture. Don't process to mix as it

> changes the texture of the cheese somehow.



> Actually, you can use either parmesan or romano, and needn't

> mix, but the mixture is actually better balanced.

>

> When you use the pesto, you would cook up some pasta - any

> shape will work, but probably linguine is best - put some of

> the pesto in a bowl,  when the pasta is done dip out a couple

> spoonfuls of the cooking water and mix with the pesto, then

> strain the pasta and mix into the pesto. Yum. Also good cold.



> The basil will darken in the refrigerator, and will turn the

> pasta a sort of rusty color, but it's still fine. When storing

> pesto, use an airtight container and press a piece of plastic

> wrap onto the surface of the pesto, and it will darken up

> less.

>

> You can also:

>

> Spread on baguette slices (my favorite!)



> Add to vegetable soup (One small spoonful per bowl)



> Use as sandwich spread (with say a grilled chicken breast,

> some roasted red peppers, a tomato...) 



> Freeze for future use.

> In this case, don't add the cheese till you thaw it to use it.

>

> Have fun

> Good luck

> let me know if you've a problem

> Shell, thinking of pesto/chicken/tomato

> sandwiches. mrumohr@herakles.stuaffrs.wayne.edu

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><                    

Michele Spainhour Rumohr

mrumohr@herakles.stuaffrs.wayne.edu



The best number for a dinner party is two--

myself and a damn good headwaiter.

          Nubar Gulbenkian, British tycoon

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><





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To: <HERBS-L@q7.com>

Subject: Fw: what is a pesto?

From: poindexter@sprynet.com

Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:58:14 -0700

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Forwarding earlier post



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From: Dori Green <funfarm@servtech.com>

To: herbs-l@q7.com

Subject: Re: what is a pesto?

Date: Wednesday,April 30,1997 11:25 AM



>From a real quick-and-dirty Yahoo search:



Internet searches are easy.  If anybody just has e-mail and not access to

search engines, they're well worth the monthly ISP fee.  And most public

libraries now have free access.



This list has won my Freebie For A Day (one donated to one of my lists each

day).  Please don't inundate me with requests to do additional searches

unless payment for the service is included -- it's now part of how I'm

meeting my mortgage!



Enjoy these links and get those basil babies started!!!!!!!!!!!



Dori Green:  Writer, Farmer, Facilitator

Ash Grove Community Farm & Center for Sustainable Living

http://www.servtech.com/public/funfarm/index.html





      Found 12 matches containing pesto:recipes. Displaying matches 1-12.



     Basil Pesto Recipes - Basil pesto. Basiltops makes Pesto Perfecto,

atraditional

     gourmet Italian pesto from our organically and hydroponically grown

basil.

     Woman owned business,

     -- http://www.basiltops.com/recipes.htm



     The Gourmet Gardener - Books - Learn more about your gardening

passion,

     and enjoy the "fruits" of your labors from books listed in this

popular collection of

     best sellers. Imaginative...

     --http://www.metrobbs.com/tgg/books.htm



     Pesto - Pesto. posted by Cappy Harrison (kharriso@mail.sas.upenn.edu)

     Cappy's favorite pesto recipe (from memory. I'll check the recipe

tonight to see if

     I got...

     --http://serf.org/~jon/soc.bi/recipes/pesto.html



     No Title - Pesto ----- I combined pieces of several other pesto

recipes to come

     up with this one. It has a noticeable but not overpowering garlic

aroma -- perfect

     to.

     --http://www.chicago.com/~kls/recipes/pesto



     Gail Swap Archive - Eating | Drinking | Playing | Bon Apptit |

Gourmet | Home |

     Text-Only Index Go to Epicurious Travel. You have made your way to

Gail's

     Recipe Swap...

     --http://food4.epicurious.com/HyperNews/get/archive_swap301-400.html



     Recipe Ideas - nbsp; [ Aubergine Recipe | Pesto Provence ]   [ Back to

Home

     Page | Contact Affi by Email ]

     --http://www.maringourmet.com/recipe.htm



     Peasant Pesto - Maunena Carter Kaseburg. A. U. N. Y. Peasant Pesto.

Many

     pesto recipes call for the expensive pine nut and Romano cheese. I

like this

     simpler, more...

     --http://www.kuow.washington.edu/wkdy/recipes/r18.htm



     Pasta Mama's, Italian Cuisine, Richland, Washington - Produced from

only the

     freshest ingredients, Pasta Mama's pasta and sauces are easy to

prepare with

     short cooking times.

     --http://www.pastamama.com/



     Links for plantspeople - Kruidenkwekerij V.O.F. Roger & Linda Bastin

Kruiden,

     geurplanten en bijzondere tuinplanten. Trichterweg 148a, 6446 AT

Brunssum,

     Nederland, Tel.:...

     --http://www.cuci.nl/~bastinkk/Links.html



     DICTIONARY: pesto - Eating | Drinking | Playing | Bon Apptit |

Gourmet | Home

     | Text-Only Index Go to Epicurious Travel. pesto. pesto. [PEH-stoh] An

uncooked

     sauce made.

     --http://www3.epicurious.com/db/dictionary/terms/p/pesto.html



     Jody ze Love God - Jody's Page of Goodies. Here's a list of Jody's

favorite

     books and a review for each: Jody has worked long and hard to

replicate the

     unique PESTO taste...

     --http://www.znet.com/~grady/jody.html



     Anna of Duxbury - Anna of Duxbury. Unique Cape Cod Herb Gardens. Herb

     Gardens. Yard Figures. Click On Picture To See It Full Size. First of

all, as our

     name implies, we are.

     --http://www.capecod.net/anna/





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: changing servers

From: Stormy & Gary <gwa@earthlink.net>

Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:30:25 -0600

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I have lost all of my garden related list addresses and need to change.

HELP can someone help me please tia tia tia







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To: herbs-l@q7.com

Subject: HerbNET July

From: HERBWORLD@aol.com

Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:47:29 -0400 (EDT)

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Heard the original did not come through...so here again is:





July HerbNET magazine is now online (http://www.herbnet.com).  Medicinal herb

is dandelion; culinary herb is sweet marjoram; edible flower is squash

blossom; essential oil is carrot seed and spice is Juniper berry.  There's

also articles from other writers.  Lots of new calendar items, some great new

books (in Herb Press).  Enjoy.  Program for conference in San Antonio in

January will be up 3rd Monday.  Great speakers!!





Maureen Rogers

The Herb Growing & Marketing Network





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To: herbs-l@q7.com

Subject: pestos

From: SaraAnneC@aol.com

Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:16:31 -0400 (EDT)

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Greetings herb folks:



I have been a real silent member of this list for a long time, lately

following the albeit short string about pesto, and decided there was enough

interest to contribute to the list at large.



Basil pesto is a phenomenal culinary event, but other herbs can be made into

pesto as well.... fresh cilantro comes immediately to mind (follow the basil

pesto recipe, or do as I do, and add some fresh lemon juice to the mix) ...

just the other day, we found one calling for fresh sage.



Sage is a wonderful and, I believe, greatly under-appreciated herb, and well

worth experimenting with. This following sage pesto recipe comes from "Bobby

Flay's Bold American Food" and is offered as a garnish for a fairly stellar

white bean and roasted tomato soup... it is very good served that way, but it

also is very good smeared on warm bread. And dolloped atop baked potatoes....



SAGE PESTO



1/2 cup fresh sage leaves (we use a very aromatic, pungent  "Bergarten"

variety)

1/2 cup fresh Italian parsley leaves

2 large cloves garlic

3 tablespoons pine nuts

2 tablespoons grated Parmesan cheese

1/2 cup good quality olive oil

Salt and black pepper to taste



Combine sage, parsley, garlic, pine nuts and cheese in food processor and

pulse blend until coarsely ground (scrape down sides of work bowl if

necessary). With machine is running, slowly drizzle in olive oil. When

mixture is smooth, transfer to a bowl and fold in salt and pepper to taste (a

shot of Tabasco never hurts, either). Mixture can be made 24 hours ahead of

time, if covered and stored in refrigerator. Yield: About 1 cup.



As a footnote, I am a professional newspaper food writer and occasional

(culinary) herb lecturer... I am constantly testing recipes for both, and

sage was the topic of a lecture I delivered last spring at an herb festival

in Newburgh, Indiana.



Sara Anne Corrigan

Evansville, IN





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To: herbs-l@q7.com

Subject: Need Some Help

From: stonehausfarm <stonehausfarm@cyberia.com>

Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:58:14 EST

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>>Like Mindy...I wonder if there is anybody out there...It is too bad that we

>>are all so busy...Remember the song, "Summertime, when the living is easy?"

>>Where did that songwriter live or do with his life?

>>   Anyway...I have a problem.  I was making  some poison ivy ointment with

>>beeswax, jewelweed tinture ect.  I could not get everything to mix together.

>>I had just given classes on hand creams and they weorked well, but the

>>jewel weed salve I cannot.  I do not know what I am doing wrong.  I'd like

>>to have a class on this but can't figure out a good recipe.  Does anyone

>>have one I could use?  

>>        Thanks.

>>

>>Pat

>>Stone Haus Farm

>>

>>

>

>







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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: re: jewelweed ointment.....

From: BERRYD <BERRYD@cnc.bc.ca>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 9:05:10 -0700 (PDT)

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>>Like Mindy...I wonder if there is anybody out there...It is too bad that we

>>are all so busy...Remember the song, "Summertime, when the living is easy?"

>>Where did that songwriter live or do with his life?

>>   Anyway...I have a problem.  I was making  some poison ivy ointment with

>>beeswax, jewelweed tinture ect.  I could not get everything to mix together.

>>I had just given classes on hand creams and they weorked well, but the

>>jewel weed salve I cannot.  I do not know what I am doing wrong.  I'd like

>>to have a class on this but can't figure out a good recipe.  Does anyone

>>have one I could use?  

>>        Thanks.

>>

>>Pat

>>Stone Haus Farm

************************

Good morning:



I make ointment out of Vaseline or think it also might be called 'white

petroleum jelly'.



I make it so often that I've long ago lost the amounts.  But it is 

foolproof.



Comfrey ointment..........



About 2 cups of dried comfrey and a large jar of Vaseline.  Put into a 

double boiler.  Have the water simmering in the double boiler.  When the

vaseline becomes liquid I let it steep in the double boiler for about

1/2 hour.....water still simmering.  The dried comfrey changes texture 

and thats when I take the mixture off the stove....comfrey becomes brittle.  

Strain the mixture through cheese cloth.  Wear heavy floor washing 

rubber gloves to squeeze the hot mixture to get the last drop. When it 

cools down enough I pour the mixture back into the vaseline jar or if I'm

giving some away I pour into small jars. 



I make at least 4  500oz jars a year and never had any problem with 

making it.



Hope this helps.



Diana                   Pr George, B.C.







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To: BERRYD <BERRYD@cnc.bc.ca>

Subject: re: jewelweed ointment.....

From: George Shirley <gshirley@iamerica.net>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:49:24 -0500 (CDT)

--------

At 09:05 AM 7/18/97 -0700, you wrote:

>>>Like Mindy...I wonder if there is anybody out there...It is too bad that we

>>>are all so busy...Remember the song, "Summertime, when the living is easy?"

>>>Where did that songwriter live or do with his life?

>>>   Anyway...I have a problem.  I was making  some poison ivy ointment with

>>>beeswax, jewelweed tinture ect.  I could not get everything to mix together.

>>>I had just given classes on hand creams and they weorked well, but the

>>>jewel weed salve I cannot.  I do not know what I am doing wrong.  I'd like

>>>to have a class on this but can't figure out a good recipe.  Does anyone

>>>have one I could use?  

>>>        Thanks.

>>>

>>>Pat

>>>Stone Haus Farm

>************************

>Good morning:

>

>I make ointment out of Vaseline or think it also might be called 'white

>petroleum jelly'.

>

>I make it so often that I've long ago lost the amounts.  But it is 

>foolproof.

>

>Comfrey ointment..........

>

>About 2 cups of dried comfrey and a large jar of Vaseline.  Put into a 

>double boiler.  Have the water simmering in the double boiler.  When the

>vaseline becomes liquid I let it steep in the double boiler for about

>1/2 hour.....water still simmering.  The dried comfrey changes texture 

>and thats when I take the mixture off the stove....comfrey becomes brittle.  

>Strain the mixture through cheese cloth.  Wear heavy floor washing 

>rubber gloves to squeeze the hot mixture to get the last drop. When it 

>cools down enough I pour the mixture back into the vaseline jar or if I'm

>giving some away I pour into small jars. 

>

>I make at least 4  500oz jars a year and never had any problem with 

>making it.

>

>Hope this helps.

>

>Diana                   Pr George, B.C.

>

What do you use it for in such large quantities?



George Shirley, Writer, Gardener, Putter-by, N'er-do-well

DX DM 08/11/94, NIDDM

USDA Zone 9b, SW Louisiana

gshirley@iamerica.net







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To: herbs-l@q7.com

Subject: Drying herbs

From: George Shirley <gshirley@iamerica.net>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:49:27 -0500 (CDT)

--------

Today I'm drying 2 trays of thyme, 1 each sage and rosemary, 3 of oregano, 5

of basil, and 1 tray of Mexican Mint Marigold (Mexican tarragon). Had to put

the dehydrator out in the carport as the smell is/was making me terribly

hungry and aggravating my wife's sinus condition. I'm in the process of

designing a small stream, about six feet long, with a upper and lower pond,

very small, for my new herb garden I'm putting in this fall. Seems to be

best for the short 30 degree slope I'm going to use. The mediterranean herbs

have been going nuts this year, the best crops we've had so far.

George Shirley, Writer, Gardener, Putter-by, N'er-do-well

DX DM 08/11/94, NIDDM

USDA Zone 9b, SW Louisiana

gshirley@iamerica.net







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To: George Shirley <gshirley@iamerica.net>, herbs-l@q7.com

Subject: Re: Drying herbs

From: Margaret Lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:42:31 -0600

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At 11:49 AM 7/18/97 -0500, George Shirley wrote:

>Today I'm drying 2 trays of thyme, 1 each sage and rosemary, 3 of oregano, 5

>of basil, and 1 tray of Mexican Mint Marigold (Mexican tarragon). Had to put

>the dehydrator out in the carport as the smell is/was making me terribly

>hungry and aggravating my wife's sinus condition. I'm in the process of

>designing a small stream, about six feet long, with a upper and lower pond,

>very small, for my new herb garden I'm putting in this fall. Seems to be

>best for the short 30 degree slope I'm going to use. The mediterranean herbs

>have been going nuts this year, the best crops we've had so far.

>George Shirley, Writer, Gardener, Putter-by, N'er-do-well

>DX DM 08/11/94, NIDDM

>USDA Zone 9b, SW Louisiana

>gshirley@iamerica.net

>

Ooohhh, that sounds wonderful, George.  Trickling water sounds will either

cool you off or send you to potty.  I love little ditches, and I've never

outgrown my love for colored rocks (naturally colored -- oh, shit, there I

go again) under water.  Margaret





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: re: comfrey ointment

From: BERRYD <BERRYD@cnc.bc.ca>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT)

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>Good morning:

>

>I make ointment out of Vaseline or think it also might be called 'white

>petroleum jelly'.

>

>I make it so often that I've long ago lost the amounts.  But it is 

>foolproof.

>

>Comfrey ointment..........

>

>About 2 cups of dried comfrey and a large jar of Vaseline.  Put into a 

>double boiler.  Have the water simmering in the double boiler.  When the

>vaseline becomes liquid I let it steep in the double boiler for about

>1/2 hour.....water still simmering.  The dried comfrey changes texture 

>and thats when I take the mixture off the stove....comfrey becomes brittle.  

>Strain the mixture through cheese cloth.  Wear heavy floor washing 

>rubber gloves to squeeze the hot mixture to get the last drop. When it 

>cools down enough I pour the mixture back into the vaseline jar or if I'm

>giving some away I pour into small jars. 

>

>I make at least 4  500oz jars a year and never had any problem with 

>making it.

>

>Hope this helps.

>

>Diana                   Pr George, B.C.

>

What do you use it for in such large quantities?



George Shirley, Writer, Gardener, Putter-by, N'er-do-well

DX DM 08/11/94, NIDDM

USDA Zone 9b, SW Louisiana

gshirley@iamerica.net

***********************************

Good morning George:



My husband volunteers as the trainer for our local BCHL hockey team.

The kids are from ages 15 to 21 yrs old.  He looks after all their medical

needs as part of his 'job'.  We have aproximately 56 games in 

regular season as well as the playoffs.  We travel all over BC.  Lots

of fun and the kids are great and if their not hubby tells them the error

of their ways........  :-)  They always listen....wouldn't you be good to

the owner of the band-aid box in a rough and tumble sport?????  :-) 



Comfrey ointment is used for things such as rashes, minor cuts, but mostly

the boys.....we had a girl goaltender a few years ago.....don't wear socks

in their skates and they can get terrible blisters, etc.   Skate bite they

call it from the skate laces. 



Comfrey ointment heals so quickly that its only used on minor problems.



I make a few other ointments....chickweed ointment for splinters.  



Have a good day.



Diana              Prince George, B.C.   

        





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: Question?!

From: blue <bluemoon@bellatlantic.net>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 19:40:47 -0400

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Hello! I am new to the list and a student to herbs and all their

wondeful gifts! I have a few questions.....What is lanolin? I know that

it is a sheep product, but I don't know where it comes from from the

sheep. Yes I am a city girl:-}  Does anyone know a good basic cream

recipe? I know that you can use beeswax and cocca butter, at least that

is what I have read, but is there anything else you can use? I don't

like vaseline. I hope these questions make sense!! 

Thank you in advance,

Blue





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: Re: Question?!

From: "Susan K. Wehe" <swehe@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 19:42:16 -0500

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blue wrote:

> 

> Hello! I am new to the list and a student to herbs and all their

> wondeful gifts! I have a few questions.....What is lanolin? I know that

> it is a sheep product, but I don't know where it comes from from the

> sheep. Yes I am a city girl:-}  Does anyone know a good basic cream

> recipe? I know that you can use beeswax and cocca butter, at least that

> is what I have read, but is there anything else you can use? I don't

> like vaseline. I hope these questions make sense!!

> Thank you in advance,

> Blue



Lanolin is an "oily" feeling substance found in the wool and is great

for the skin.  

Hand cream?  Face cream?  





Susan





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: Re:Question?!

From: blue <bluemoon@bellatlantic.net>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 20:55:26 -0400

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Susan,

Thanks for the response! Face cream and hand cream if it wouldn't be any

trouble?! Is it(lanolin) hard to find and use? I would like to start

making my own creams and such and could use all the help I can get!



Sincerely

Blue





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: Re: Question?!

From: "Susan K. Wehe" <swehe@ix.netcom.com>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 20:25:15 -0500

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blue wrote:

> 

> Susan,

> Thanks for the response! Face cream and hand cream if it wouldn't be any

> trouble?! Is it(lanolin) hard to find and use? I would like to start

> making my own creams and such and could use all the help I can get!

> 

> Sincerely

> Blue



I buy lanolin at farm and ranch stores. 

One of my favorite sites is:

	http://members.aol.com/oelaineo/soapmaking.html



A good recipe for hand cream is:

1 (16 oz.) jar Valvachol, from

   pharmacists

1 (12 oz.) bottle glycerin

1 qt. distilled water

  Heat ingredients together until completely melted.  Let cool and whip

until white and fluffy.



one for face cream:

 1/2 c. chopped cucumber

1 egg white

2 tsp. powdered milk

  Put in blender to make a smooth paste.  Apply in upward swirls to face

and neck.  Let dry 30 minutes; rinse dry with warm water, then cold.

Softly pat dry.



one for soap:

1 c. lye

1/2 c. powdered Borax

2 tsp. lanolin

4 tsp. aromatic oil of rose, lavender

   or pine

3 tbsp. oatmeal, finely ground

11 c. fat, melted and strained

5 c. rain water or soft water

1/3 c. sugar

3 oz. glycerine

  Measure rain water into crock or enamel pan.  Add, vigorously

stirring, one at a time until dissolved: lye, Borax and sugar. Continue

stirring until cool.  Slowly pour in fat and fragrance; stir for 15

minutes.  While stirring, add lanolin, glycerine and oatmeal.  When mix

is thick and creamy, pour into molds the size of soap bars or glass pans

lined with waxed paper.  Let stand until firm and cut.  Wrap in waxed

paper. Let stand one week before using. 

Mix well and store in tight covered container.



Hope this helps!





Susan





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To: "Susan K. Wehe" <swehe@ix.netcom.com>

Subject: Re: Question?!

From: blue <bluemoon@bellatlantic.net>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 21:58:31 -0400

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Susan,

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! The information you gave was and will

be a great help!! I am collecting recipes to try during break between

semesters and now I have a few more to try out.

Sincerely

Blue





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: More Questions!?!

From: blue <bluemoon@bellatlantic.net>

Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:28:00 -0400

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Hello Again!

I have read that when beeswax is used in creams it does not absorb and

doesn't allow the skin to breathe. Has anyone had this problem? 

Thanks

Blue





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: another herbal list

From: Frank Wiederhold <v0416202@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de>

Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:01:04 +0200

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Hello,



I found this information in the Scout Project Newsletter from July 25th:



HerbInfo--Herbal Subjects Mailing List

Discussion archives [.zip]

http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed/archives/herbinfo/



The HerbInfo list is open, unmoderated, and intended to be an all-purpose

list to discuss herbs.  Due to the general nature of the list, all subjects

related to herbs and their uses are considered to be on topic, regardless

of their level of knowledge or expertise. Archives (.zip format) of the

discussion are available at the above URL. [JS]

To subscribe send email to:

   herbinfo-request@bolis.com

In the body of the message type:

   subscribe





Thought it might be of interest to some people here.



Greetings



Frank

 ____          _       ____       _         ___   

/         \___/   \__/         \__/  \___/       \       "Hey Rocky!

|                          _|@ @ ___                   |      Watch me pull

some intelligence

\___________/  |          |     \_______ /       out of the Inernet!"

                        __/       _/                                 -"But

that trick never works."-

                       /)  (o  _/                                     "This

time for sure."

                       \___ /

          Frank in Cologne





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To: HERBS-L@q7.com

Subject: another herbal list<Reply/HerbInfo>

From: Sam Brooks <sbrooks@earthlink.net>

Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 11:40:58 -0700 (PDT)

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Frank Said;

>

>I found this information in the Scout Project Newsletter from July 25th:

>

>HerbInfo--Herbal Subjects Mailing List

>

>The HerbInfo list is open, unmoderated, and intended to be an all-purpose

>list to discuss herbs.  Due to the general nature of the list, all subjects

>related to herbs and their uses are considered to be on topic.



Many Thanks, Frank, for bringing this to the attention of the culinary 

herb list.  If any one has questions, regarding the herbinfo list,

please e-mail me privately.



BTW-Is the Scout Project Newsletter an "ink & paper" publication or

an e-mail?



Sam Brooks

HerbInfo List Originator

sbrooks@earthlink.net





